Take it with a grain of salt-not my usual source. Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. 8 of them are Power5 schools located west of Texas. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK will ask for an extension on the 4/15 deadline We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 27. Log in. There are some trying to angle SDSU or even Fresno as an alt travel partner for Stanford but the metrics show Cal is actually more desirable to tv partners”Kliavkoff is still trying to leverage more $ from ESPN but they are so far apart (allegedly almost $200m per year) that some at ESPN have told people in the B12 that Kliavkoff seems to be either desperate or cluelessThings aren’t blowing up just yet…BUT…Colorado is having another meeting tomorrow to continue down the road of departing the PAC. “@BIG10Bruin When did I say we weren’t getting some combination of the 4 corner schools. “Still haven’t gotten confirmation or info of the possible meetings for Utah and AZ…”“@MurrDCU They’d be a decent add just for the recruiting area. ”“@kiwicanuck76 I’m told it’s because the conference has 4 states and 8 schools on their no travel list. Sign upFwiw I’m hearing the ION Tv thing was a red herring fed to McMurphy and Kliavkoff is only a few days away from having 2 final proposals in hand to take to his schools for voting. Yormark has a vision. Likes. ”““We haven't decided if we're going shopping there yet,"-Kliavkoff, spewing venomously at the conference that just recently decided a merger with his conference wasn’t financially attractive. Replying to @MHver3. Most recent figure I’ve heard for Pac12 is just south of $20m per year per school after broadcasting expenses are covered in house. “And the killer for Utah is that even tough they are valued in the top half the one Power conference that they have a shot at may not really want them because they have a school in that market and lower valued schools like AZ are actually higher valued to B12. The third is a big market school with a great history that has underperformed in recent years. Once again it’s in the media a few days later:. ”Expansion notes thread since some of these are all over the place I thought I’d just consolidate into one place. ”Gonna have envoys from the Rockies and the desert here at the B12 meetings in West-by-God Virginia. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. Guess the state of AZ to BIG12 has died down though. Appx $75m per year. MHver3. ”Notre Dame is not a factor. An olive branch was extended by GK to BY with terms that favor B12 this time. 21. I’m hearing we could see a vote by B12 to add them within the next week or so barring a major development. You are just regurgitating what you see on your twitter TL. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. @MHver3. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. Not sure what’s going on there yet-just hearing preliminary info-but hearing it from multiple sources. Staples: The realignment battle for No. Staples: The realignment battle for No. 1 — and for No. And there are ongoing discussions on how that money could be generated through selling the extra inventory. 35 seconds to PACmidnight. Huge mistake. I’ve got news but can’t leak it yet. ”See new Tweets. 3. One feels they were sold a false bill of goods when they joined. 2. yes they are extending his “deadline”. Retweets. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. I’m packing it up. @MHver3. Of course “official sources” are going to downplay the significance of any talks schools have had Witt other conferences BY has allegedly been engaged all evening with 1 particular school to the west. Yormark has a vision. 7:34 PM · Jul. 7. Sign upSee new Tweets. We currently get about $4m for that same content. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. Army/Navy make the most sense from a. Their additions brought stability. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. 3. Even if espn is trying to call this something else (licensing fee for streaming content)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “@BobOThomson Yes. Bradley Berry M. 23. Top to bottom though this new B12 would be the best conference ever assembled. Previous offer for 24. So not just a. “@kenneyclone @JBWinstonTX No. MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3. All stuff you heard here from me way before it hit the press. MHver3 @MHver3. “Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year. 10:09 PM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Possibly 3 east coast teams as well but those 3 are not as far along as the zags are. I don’t think anyone is getting in with a negotiated out clause. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. Now it’s been twice verified. My source says it’s getting more and more likely a prodigal son returns. FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. ”What did I tell you? No new movement to share with PAC presidents. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. 1. 7. At least for the next 6-8 years. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. I did want to take a minute to share a few things though. I don’t think that’s an option for us. We’ve spoiled schools with Tier3 independence. Sign upAt this point there’s probably more votes of no confidence for Kliavkoff than there are yes votes for SDSU. “The Buffs are an inevitability now. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. Some in the PAC are trying to push a couple of the others out in an effort to add 2 “better” markets for tv and recruiting without increasing the mouths to feed. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Retweets. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. We don’t have the endowment they have. USC and UCLA moved the needle a lot. Sign upSee new Tweets. The Big 10 should just bring in all the schools in the Pac 10 as a Western division. If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. As soon as I’m allowed to it’ll be up. Corey Wishnia. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. 2. Sounds like he expects a number of his current members to go else where. ”On the eve of a significant B12 meeting got a few tidbits to offer up. FOX would be on board for heavily discounted PAC programming but we aren’t there just yet. Retweets. There’s no reason to add anyone else to dilute the tv money just to have an even number. Sign up“Called my source. 2:49 AM · Jul 19, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Even an Oregon and a Washington together don’t increase the pie enough to bring up the per school payout. ”“@mikednfl Absolutely. ”Log in. Likely not enough votes there to oust him yet but the cracks are showing. ConversationReports that Pac12 is assessing SDSU and SMU are old news that many have known since USC and UCLA bolted. B12 has a chance to get into 20m households with additions. “Looks like we have a new ESPN offer for PAC12. Who stands to benefit the most?“@USFBullTampaBuc They should’ve built these a decade ago. It’s to actively pursue expansion and re-form the expansion committee. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”“Just heard that Yormark meeting with Knight was basically Knight pleading to Yormark to keep the merger talks going and make it happen. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. Could also mean NBC/B12 won’t happen. Colorado feels like they are on an island and being pushed out. @MHver3. (Ralph Freso / Associated Press) Sources say preliminary talks have started on a merger between San Diego State’s current conference and the Pac-12, which is in. If it takes their exit for Cal, Stan, Utah,. That’s it. @MHver3. 8 of them are. It did ok. 2. that will be accurate. Nothing will happen until GK presents the deal to Pac12 presidents. They are going to get the money they want without joining a conference. ”“I want to hear from Oregon fans. The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. You ready for this? Oregon/Washington 16. 11. @MHver3. This happened sometime in the past few days. @MHver3 BYU will raise that profile as they would come in and immediately be at least the second most valuable media rights member behind KU (as much as I hate that) due to their worldwide following. 19. More interesting news is that OR and UW may not be a shoe-in for the B1G. 82. 10:33 PM · Sep 7, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone. It’s the eve of yet another deadline for Pac12 media deal to be presented to members. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. @MHver3. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. MHver3 @MHver3. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. TomKat“One of the two sources that shared this told me that Stanford is pushing for B12 to rebrand if they add the PAC schools. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. No vote-just the general consensus during a call I’m told. 4. ”“@Lake_Cowboy @KDVanderpool We had a good one with TX. @MHver3 Stanford has basically said to B10: pay us our actual value vs what the bloated equal share of the big pie would be. 7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 MHver3. GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 1. The in-fighting is bad currently with those schools. Of course it’s more financially attractive to do that with the “right” schools. Likes. ”Also hearing TCU and Texas Tech plan on pulling out of games scheduled with Oregon and Stanford if Pac12 goes all streaming out of visibility concerns for the pac owned games. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. But again, aside from Rutgers going to B10, Pitt had the most room for improvement. ”GK about to get shipped to China. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Eerily similar to communications the BIgEast put out just before it’s demise right before Pitt/Cuse/WVU/Rutgers/Louisville bolted. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “@BobOThomson I don’t really have a source close to that program but I can just reiterate what I tweeted a couple of weeks ago: Utah isn’t a priority and is very low on B12 radar”“@RChalk94 I’m not trying to get anyone to believe me. Feb 21. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48Feb 24. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. There’s so much information to pour through and so many moving pieces that B12 leadership alone can’t keep up. Found. GOR have teeth even for powerful schools. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. MHver3. “Boise State making their case for inclusion into the B12. Memphis and Boise(FB only) are definitely the front runners. ”MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3 The worst-case scenario for WVU, of course, is the Big 10 standing pat and the Pac 12, still with UW and ORE, picking off several Big 12 teams and leaving the rest of the Big 12 in the wilderness. ”“How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. Would the B12 take them?”Sources telling me B12 plans to extend acceptance to Gonzaga following the NCAA tournament. “Those of you worrying about access to playoffs due to harder due to W/L record if B12 drops scheduling FCS and moved to 10 conference games-relax. Murky version is: ducks are in a row but the can is getting kicked down the road. WVU alone makes like $10m from theirs a year. ”“@MHver3 @TGBN1997 Let's just say for some reason any combination of 3 of the 4 corner schools join the Big 12 and say Utah, Oregon, Washington hold out for greener pastures, dose Memphis or Boise stand a chance of being the 4th add in that round or does the big 12 stand pat and wait for more moves”Log in. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK. @xtmountain. “CU and AZ have been given “all the time they need to make a decision” by BY as B12 is in no hurry to add. @MHver3. They let UCF pass them up. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. Oregon was the third choice as a. They are content to sit at 16 and wait out Notre Dame. . 26. Taking a small break from sharing. And they all already know the current numbers. Replying to. We’ve seen lots of tweets from reputable sources, but I’ve also seen a lot of interesting rumors from MHver3 on Twitter . ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. ”Log in. Do you prefer to move to the B10 for the money that you really don’t need with Phil Knight’s checkbook-where you will play 2nd fiddle to many? Or do you prefer becoming the top dog in the B12 conference?”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Taking the four will crush the P12. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Would help them reclaim partially, a soon to be lost market, and actually aligns very well culturally with PAC. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. ” ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. ·. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. Beating out even the 2004-2011 BIgEast. Looks like their fate is in Amazon’s hands. MHver3 @MHver3. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. ”Hearing that Pac12 presidents have vehemently rejected 100% streaming proposal from apple. 3 — is made for TV. 159. ”“I don’t normally get a lot of MWC rumors but I did get a good one this morning that the MWC is fully expecting the PAC to be either dissolved or weakened severely enough that they fully expect ASU, WSU, OSU and maybe even Utah to be partners in the very near future. ”Pac voted on SDSU and SMU again. ”ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. Learn more. If the ND/Big 12/NBC rumors have any truth to them, I imagine the Big 12 became even more attractive for those schools. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. No $$ yet from the new partner-very early in talksWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”“Sorry I’ve been away so long. ”That scenario was floated by Fox. ”“@tsaundry13 @CFBKnights The tv deal plus accn money is about $31m per school. and. Possibly during the NCAA tournament but it could be immediately following. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. The PAC show of unity tweet…. Sign up“I’ve got a pretty big scoop to share that I’ve been sitting on for a few days. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools. And CFP is going to probably double for everyone soon. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. ”Uconn is going to win the championship. ” Confirming through my B12 contacts that according to what has been shared between BY and a few PAC presidents that CW and ION are indeed in talks for PAC12 broadcasting rights. “Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year. Likes. Thanks for the heads up from those of you who wrote me. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. ACC has special deal with espn to add those 4 at prorata even though it wasn’t built into the contract. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. Sign up“@ChiefsInsider There’s a legitimate academic snobbery by the presidents and they are trying their damndest to go down with the ship. " / Twitter. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48 Feb 24. They know. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. Rumors swirling today that there may be merger talks brewing between Pac12 and Big12 again. 13. Replying to. Retweets. and @TheAPBerry. Grant of Rights required or will come with a clause for reductions assigning each school a percentage of what their worth is to the overall contract. “ESPN has been quietly pushing for a B10/SEC Rose Bowl so don’t get too excited yet. I’ve also heard that Pac12 may not have enough yes votes from members to add SDSU and SMU. It was $24. @MHver3. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. After months of back and forth, with things really heating up since the NCAA tourney started, looks like BY is very close to getting 2 new members a for B12. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. @m_iguel_ca. They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be. 11/15 schools would have to vote to disband, and that's exactly what would get gobbled up by the BIG10, SEC, and Big XII. “@RChalk94 B12 100% takes Colorado if they want in. FSU is the most attractive maybe. 2. ” @MHver3 Jul 22 How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. MHver3 @MHver3. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. “Utah hasn’t withdrawn their application but they do seem less urgent and seem to be teetering. BYU has requested an exclusion to allow certain games of theirs to be simulcast on their network. It was $24. Their fans are this nasty-imagine how bad it is between the schools right now. Boise is not completely off the table in football. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. That is all. "Hearing that UConn is leveraging for an all sports invite from B12…and BY and networks are listening. “Thank you to everyone for your words of support as my family deals with the loss of a very close loved one. and @JimUSFSig. Too many lower tier schools in ACC that won’t have a home if that conference blows up. @MHver3. 239. The latest tweets from @MHver3 @MHver3 It is expected that tonight, Az and CU leadership will officially sign off on moving forward with officially applying for membership with Big12. @KStateKyle. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. Replying to @MHver3. Become an Annual VIP member today and get access. And several mid tier schools that would be shaky getting a new home as well”“I’m also hearing a lot of people describing espns offer to PAC as a lowball offer. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. I’ll update as I get more info. (Read full thread)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Learn to create and view Twitter threads to provide additional context or updates. “Hearing BY is meeting with a school president from that conference on the pacific coast. All 3 tiers. Sign up. Also the FB CCG. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40 @MHver3 Don’t underestimate a possible Pac12 invite for Airforce either. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. read image description. ”The apple deal would see apple absorb the production costs of all the games and give them the option to sub lease games to other networks and split additional revenues with the conference. Log in. “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Also learning that Stanford has told B10 they will join for a drastically reduced cut of the tv money. @MHver3. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. com. Ugh. Replying to. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. Once again I return from a long absence and bring you info. 3 — is made for TV. 1. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Conversation“Very risky for PAC to walk from what espn was offering but desperate times…”“@bigg_t08 I don’t want to predict anything about what the final offer will be because so much can change. @MHver3. There. 5m. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “Colorado doesn’t even know where Cal and Stanford truly stand and what their real plan is because so far communication has been lackluster with them. @CFBKnights. 2. St Johns has trouble competing in the Big East and would be over their head in the Big 12. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. Quote Tweets. Something new that moves forward and forgets the past. Sign up“Tonight’s Big12 vote isn’t to invite schools. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 251. A thread is a series Tweets from one person. ”BY possibly has a 3rd media partner on board if Fox is a no go for adding $ for new additions. Retweets. 19 Jul 2023 04:22:28. Replying to @Brewenor. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. “@ConfCommandos Schwartzwalder wasn’t really a ratings boon after McNabb finished his 10 year career at Cuse though. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. They could very well join the four south schools in the B12… until the B1G change their mind. But it was requested by the source who shared the info with me. 1. No football home for Uconn in exchange either. UConn and Nova have proven you can win NCAA titles from the Big East. 17. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. I think something will happen to try to satisfy these demands. ”Log in. 6. Fox already approved pro-rata for both. Log in. ” Big12 financial consultants believe the B12 + the Pac6 would be valued at around $500-$600million per year on the open market. “Pac12 fans should redirect their anger at the B10 and USC and UCLA. ”“@GibeiiBrewsong @USAdebtcrisis I say 6 are leaving but ORWA will try to keep them all together under the ridiculous uneven revenue sharing model espn is pushing but that will not sit with the 4 corners schools and they will bolt which will lead to ORWA bolting as well. Still waiting on my main source to give me the go ahead to share. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal.